They held signs that read Forgive? officer gets an idea. Liberals in America's streets "protested" our victories and exulted in our defeats - thus, in patriots' eyes, giving the war a raison d'etre. Jane Fonda was more than just an actress born to a wealthy and prominent Hollywood family. True. CHRIS WALLACE: Who the people in the Nixon administration? I wanted to tell them what I was seeing as an American on the ground there. However, the fact that she advocated Communism does not give anyone license to make up stories or slander. Putnams Sons. As Pioneer Rap Trio Suffers Tragic Loss, Long-Awaited Back Catalog is Finally Released, Bret Baiers Interview With FBI Director Shows What A Joke It Is to Pose Him As Foxs Real Journalism Successor to Chris Wallace, Jimmy Kimmel Calls Tucker Carlson Putins Favorite Little Nesting Doll After He Accused Kimmel of Using Foreign Gov. Or to keep it anonymous, click here. Meanwhile the mass media suddenly reversed its pro-war policy: denying our beleaguered troops moral support from home. The journey of Jane Fonda: Ive always been curious. [5] One man who was supposed to have encountered Jane Fonda, one Colonel Larry Carrigan, has denied any claim that he ever met her. I have had my say. Pleasant Michigan, where Mary Hersberger (Capital University) and Jerry Kembcke (Holy Cross College) both gave papers on Fonda. Since the dawn of the Internet and a spate of anti-Fonda websites, there have been many fabrications and exaggerations regarding her actions, but her photo ops and press conferences to "give aid and comfort to the enemy" are not and never were in question. OLIVER NORTH, HOST, "WAR STORIES": Actually, she's not really apologizing. I dug in my heels. Over the years, as Fonda reinvented herself as a fitness maven and again a movie star, she apologized many times for the antiaircraft gunphoto. This "police action" quickly developed into a full-blown but undeclared war. In 1972, actress Jane Fonda traveled to North Vietnam on an anti-war mission. Fonda addresses the media in December 1972 to protest U.S. military involvement in the Vietnam War. Colonel, Michelle Malkin (search) actually discovered other quotes that she had said. So did Joan Baez and William Sloane Coffin, Noam Chomsky and Pete Seeger, Rennie Davis and Judy Collins. During the visit she posed for several pictures. She called our POWs hypocrites and liars and referred to their torture as understandable. In it, she apologizes once again for insulting the men and women who fought in Vietnam. War materiel, shipped via the Among the products sold expressing veterans' disdain for Fonda are a variety of bumper stickers, envelope stickers, sew-on patches, but evidently D&G no longer carries my favorite Fonda item, a urinal pad depicting Jane Fonda's photograph. She continued openly to question the accounts of the U.S. government and American POWs, who told devastating stories of the torture they endured at the hands of the North Vietnamese. Chris Appy, a historian who has written about Vietnam, told HNN he once asked POW Porter Halyburton about the claims made against Fonda. It was treason, nothing more and nothing less. Outside of herself, she was manipulated by the experts in the Communist government who are masters in the art of propaganda. Otherwise, she wouldn't touch a weapon if she was genuinely anti-war. The reason Jane Fonda went to Vietnam was not wrong as Mr. Sollinger put it but the way she behaved while in Vietnam was unappropriate. She did not merely criticize the authoritarian government of South Vietnam, or the dubious motives of powerful corporations that make up the American military-industrial complex. Legal Statement. Nobody remembers, nobody cares. Did our government lie to us during Vietnam? She has said that she regrets doing this. I mean, he realized that. America. The Ms. , we thought, would signal a bit of ironic distance from the broad, ingenu- ous affection contained in Miss America., It evidently didnt. Hardly misdirected anger, Jane Fonda really was merely a silly and shallow child of privilege who allowed herself to be used for propaganda. Mao Tse-Tung, of "Little Red Book" fame, and darling of the New York-Hollywood "elite", then proceeded to murder 65 million of his countrymen in what David Rockefeller and Zbigniew Brzezinski call "a glorious revolution." officer gets an idea. Mutual Fund and ETF data provided by Refinitiv Lipper. After we published Peter Braunsteins article on Jane Fonda in our July/August issue, perhaps 60 people sent me this story. I was not the kind of mother that I wished I had been to my children. She went to Hanoi that year to tour villages, cities and infrastructure. A series of photos of her sitting at an NVA anti-aircraft battery earned her the nickname Hanoi Jane and the undying spite of Vietnam veterans everywhere. There were also rumors she turned over secret messages from POWs to their captors. Copyright 1949-2022 American Heritage Publishing Co. All Rights Reserved. There was a real Colonel Carrigan, and he was a POW in Vietnam. The Army builds a tolerance for violence, she shouted at the crowd. This story hearkens to a real visit to North Vietnam by Jane Fonda in July of 1972, but the stories about betraying POWs is not true. The Fonda trip became unforgettable because it infuriated Americans, especially Americans in uniform, many of whom still regard her as a traitor. Libertarian commentator Jedediah Bila appeared on Fox's "Outnumbered" and later turned up on ABC's "The View.". I mean, the reality is, there were 24,000 American troops on the ground in South Vietnam. Also Read: 'Jane Fonda in Five Acts' Film Review: Doc Explores the Many Lives of the Actress-Activist, She posed on an antiaircraft gun used to shoot down our American pilots. True, by Fondas admission. He was denied his request to gather intelligence by aerial reconnaissance over China. Ramsey Clark went to Hanoi during the war. And you were photographed sitting on an anti aircraft gun. JANE FONDA: it was a mistake to go, I never wanted to go to any military installations. If a prisoner tried to escape, it is quite understandable that he would probably be beaten and tortured., Also Read: How Jane Fonda Explains 'Hanoi Jane': 'Regret to My Dying Day', Even she had to apologize years later for that gun picture True. We have no right to attack that country. Thus, the U.S.A. deliberately betrayed its former ally Chiang Kai-Shek and gave mainland China to communism. Quotes displayed in real-time or delayed by at least 15 minutes. The other stories allege a far more direct participation in war crimes on the part of Fonda. Joe? Now, aid and comfort can be measured a lot of ways. February 25, 2023 / Jack Marshall. And the more they tried, the more. JANE FONDA: It was a terrible mistake. She now works at Reuters. All rights reserved. Her attackers renewed an old strike against the image of an actress who grew up as the daughter of the All-American Henry Fonda, yet became synonymous with the various rebellions of the Sixties. And therein lies the difference. I mean, he realized that . Considering the admonition about Caesar's wife, perhaps HNN should remove you as an intern. In replying, I discovered that the Good Book notwithstanding, a soft answer turneth away wrath no more than zo percent of the time. Thats what made me laugh. I mean, the reality of it is that's not an apology. It was the last day of my two week time there. You know, we can we can scare her, and boy did they try? "There's no disputing that Jane Fonda toured North Vietnam, propagandized on behalf of the communists, and participated in an orchestrated "press conference" with American POWs in 1972. I spent many years its when I made coming home talking to American soldiers, who had been in Vietnam and the things they told me were heartbreaking. Fonda told the audience that their protests saddened her. She now hosts "New Day" on CNN. quote: Fonda was a political activist in the counterculture era during the Vietnam War. Enjoy the rest of the conversation. And it was a terrible mistake because of the image that it showed, which was not at all what the reality was. How did we get into this war? Trusted Writing on History, Travel, and American Culture Since 1949. "Happening Now" anchor Jenna Lee announced that she was leaving the Fox Newsafter working there for 10 years. container: 'taboola-right-rail-thumbnails', In 1972, the Academy Award-winning actress and activist traveled to North Vietnam and was photographed laughing and clapping along with Vietnamese soldiers. It is giving them the advantage of the propaganda visibility that this woman lent to them. Del. Johnson then ordered 165,000 U.S. forces under General Westmoreland to support a handful of American "advisors" previously ordered there by former President John F. Kennedy, Democrat. Free subscription>>, Please consider a donation to help us keep this American treasure alive. All of the facts, in retrospect, lead to the conclusion that the U.S. government's purpose in dragging America into Korea was not to defeat communism but to kill as many Americans as possible in an ignoble defeat, get rid of the hero MacArthur as a possible presidential nominee, and lure a disillusioned America into acceptance of one world government. We're going to take them out. 's and eMediaMillWorks, Inc.'s copyrights or other proprietary rights or interests in the material. Thank you, sir. Heres how we saw the article we ran: It is a survey of the singular career of a woman who both drove and was driven by many of the largest social concerns of her era, and who came to embody some of them. If you must know, my original draft did make reference to the one true story that you mentioned. Its folklore, but folklore of a curiously evolved sort. Mutual Fund and ETF data provided by Refinitiv Lipper. Quotes displayed in real-time or delayed by at least 15 minutes. That's an apology. To license content, please contact licenses [at] americanheritage.com. Her book just may not make the bestseller Due to the pressure of so-called "rationalists", Article VI, Paragraph 3 of the Constitution forbids Congress from excluding Communists, Anti-Semites, or Globalists from its membership, allowing the control that you decry. The POWs are beaten. Jane Fonda is a star of stage and screen whose career began in 1960. However, you may note that the Left still presumes to lecture the rest of us often concerning foreign policy on a regular basis. I sang a song. Why has no one been hanged for high treason? One presumably claimed to have been struck by her, while another claimed to have had his confidence betrayed to his Communist captors. In July of 1972, she made two trips to CHRIS WALLACE: Who the people in the Nixon administration? The people who are speaking out against the war are the patriots. She said the radio addresses were the only way to get access to American soldiers, because she was barred from meeting them at their bases in South Vietnam. They have never acknowledged their role in the killing fields of Cambodia and fail to discuss the fact that Vietnam, one of about four communist countries left on the face of this earth, is currently at the bottom rung of third world nations in terms of per capita income. I dont think they know, Fonda said in a news conference when she returned home. This is not a legal transcript for purposes of litigation. North Vietnam, 1972,: Jane Fonda is in the midst of her visit when an N.V.A. She said:I have very few regrets. When Jane Fonda Rocked the U.S. Army A newly exhumed documentary delves into the actresss anti-Vietnam vaudeville tour of American military bases in 1972. Why? Thats all the ground troops were going home. Rumors spread and still persist that she betrayed them by accepting secret notes and then turning them over to the North Vietnamese. SEAN HANNITY, CO-HOST: Jane Fonda says she is sorry for some of her actions during the Vietnam War. Deprived of American assistance, his army bereft of supplies, Chiang Kai-Shek retreated to the island sanctuary of Formosa and dug in. He didnt live to see it published. And, you know, I think they thought, Oh, shes this white privilege rich, famous daughter of all of that stuff. It was my mistake and I have paid and continue to pay a heavy price for it.. Many Americans traveled to Here are her comments: Many of our veterans still call her Hanoi Jane thanks to her radio broadcasts, which attempted to shame American troops. So I feel that well If I did was good, except that I shouldnt have set gone out to a military place. There's no denying that she defamed POWs by whitewashing the Viet Cong's treatment of them and later calling them liars when they spoke out." It never happened. Jane Fonda came clean in an interview with Chris Wallace about her Hanoi Jane days and her failure as a mother. Watch "Hannity & Colmes" weeknights at 9 p.m. She apologized for being on a North Vietnamese anti-aircraft gun site. _taboola.push({ She was young and famous at the time, maybe the Iraqi insurgents could get some of the present crop of empty headed celebrities, Britney Spears perhaps, to pose next to those Muslim mopes in robes and head towels while they aim their weapons. Heres how we saw the article we ran: It is a survey of the singular career of a woman who both drove and was driven by many of the largest social concerns of her era, and who came to embody some of them. I mean again, I'm not trying to be pedantic about it, but an apology is, "I'm sorry for what I said. target_type: 'mix' WebJane Fonda & TheVietnam War. After all, she is an American; surely shell carry the message home to the families that their husband or son is alive. Greta Van Susteren -- who had been one of Ailes' most stalwart defenders -- left in early September 2016 after saying that Fox had "not felt like a home" for years. It's not just handing out, you know, blankets. Especially considering that the Republican Party has obviously now been captured by the same forces (the 'Illuminati', hehehe). Heres her explanation, from 2011: I had decided to do the broadcasts because I was so horrified by the bombing of civilian targets and I wanted to speak to U.S. pilots as I had done on so many occasions during my visits to U.S. military bases and at G.I. The war was being fought by the air during during the Nixon administration. Never. and booed people attending the event, according to the Frederick News-Post. Jane Fonda tested the limits of patriotic dissent. And you were photographed sitting on an anti aircraft gun. What most Viet-Nam veterans think about Jane Fonda is expressed in a number of products sold by D & G Enterprises, I find that intolerable.. She said It is possible it was a setup, I will never know. Each of them suggested that they had done at least one interview with Fonda, and individually they were looking into the historical accuracy behind the claims made about Fonda and why she became such a lighting rod for controversy. The Bushes have a long-standing relationship with Red China, one that has hardmed our national security, yet few attack them as vociferously as Fonda was attacked. The cameras flash. I mean, that's like the bank robber saying, "I'm sorry I got caught.". I mean, the fact is, there's no statute on treason, by the way. WebDaughter of legendary Henry Fonda, actress, and activist was one of the most outspoken people against the Vietnam War at the age of 34. She and actor Donald Sutherland started an anti-USO troupe to counter Bob Hopes famous shows for the troops. Her suit was later settled for a reported $20 million. But newly discovered tapes tell a very, very different story. Even so, the main focus of my essay was whether Jane Fonda participated in war crimes, not whether she was morally culpable for her part as an apologist for the mistreatment of POW's (she was). Jane Fonda was always an outspoken opponent of the Vietnam War. The Nixon Justice Department poured over the transcripts of my broadcasts trying to find a way to put me on trial for treason but they could find none. They called it FTA, which they said stood for Free the Army, but it was also a not-so-subtle nod to the expression f the Army.. Content and Programming Copyright 2005 Fox News Network, L.L.C. And I didnt even think and they sang me a song and Im made me laugh. On a hot, stickyMay afternoon in 1970,a crowd of several thousand students and protesterstook over the University of Maryland mall. Four die; one, Col. Larry Carrigan, survivesjust barely, but it is he who tells about the incident. North Vietnamese press reported and Fonda later confirmed that she made several radio announcements over the Voice of Vietnam radio to implore U.S. pilots to stop the bombings. I am going to let the extract stand as it is, containing just enough truth to be uncomfortable, I think. It meant re-taking the same bloody ground over and over again. If I was Vietnamese, I probably would have tried to do the same thing, you know, but I should not have gone. [2] While criticizing America, she made laudatory comments about the Soviet Union. SEAN HANNITY, CO-HOST: Jane Fonda says she is sorry for some of her actions during the Vietnam War. He collects a group of American POWs from their septic dungeons, cleans them up, and has them mustered on parade to show his guest how well his embattled nation treats its prisoners. But Jane Fonda: Cancel my subscription! Fonda was accused of engaging in war crimes on behalf of the North Vietnamese. You're a great American. Its something very like the worst sort of lovers betrayal, the deep wound that time itself often is powerless to heal. The financial elite then move into the vacuum, establish central banks, and issue debt-credit to the devastated populations. The cover called her Ms. NORTH: As a matter of fact, no. It was the last day of my two week time there. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed. But because of the nature of Vietnam, McNamara said to me, if wed known what we know now it would have we should not have gone out. And four months later, the bombing stopped of the dikes. I mean, the reality is, there were 24,000 American troops on the ground in South Vietnam. Congress held hearings. YOU'VE REACHED YOUR MONTHLY ARTICLE LIMIT. I think you'll find that those are things on a more personal level than stupdities and worse committed by LBJ, Congress, and Nixon. COLMES: Many of us forgive many of us forgive George W. Bush (search) for being young and irresponsible, and maybe we can also forgive Jane Fonda. "VIET NAM: A repeat scenario was played 10 years later under another banker-picked Democratic administration. As anyone who knew or worked with me in those years knows my heart has always been with the soldiers. Here's what she's got. Fonda shakes the last hand, then turns to the officer and gives him the fistful of messages. I hardly even think about where I am sitting. ( New York: G.P. "Hanoi Run" from USSR to Viet Nam, was produced in Russian plants that had been built by American companies and financed by the Federal Reserve System. Kelly attacked Fondas Vietnam War history to defend questions about plastic surgery. I agree with TheWrap's Terms of Service and Privacy Policy and provide my consent to receive marketing communications from them. tips@mediaite.com. For a great many people, its not enough that Jane Fonda went to North Vietnam, offered encouragement to an army that was daily killing her countrymen, climbed up on that anti-aircraft gun, insisted that all American prisoners were well treated, and so on. Hundreds of Americans had gone to North Vietnam, journalists diplomats, our Secretary of State Ramsey Clark, Vietnam veterans, but I said but a movie star hasnt gone and maybe if I go it will draw more attention, and thats what it did. Us veterans will never forget or forgive her posing on a North Viet anti-aircraft gun, regardless whatever else she may or may not have done. I think that there is a lot of selectivity going on. On the basis of those meetings alone, she proclaimed that American POW's weren't being mistreated, and that any who said they were mistreated werte either liars, or were simply experiencing punishment for their racist treatment and attitude towards their Vietnamese captors. I get up, and as I start to walk back to the car with the translator, the implication of what has just happened hits me. I am assured it will be taken care of. I feel sorry for NORTH: She didn't apologize, Alan. The Roger Ailes and Bill OReilly scandals have cast even some old departures in a new light. For example, she went on Radio Hanoi a number of times, while our troops, your friends, were being shot at by an enemy in Vietnam, saying our POWs were in good health. These men were bombing and strafing and napalming the country, she said. For a great many people, its not enough that Jane Fonda went to North Vietnam, offered encouragement to an army that was daily killing her countrymen, climbed up on that anti-aircraft gun, insisted that all American prisoners were well treated, and so on. She called our POWs hypocrites and liars and referred to their torture as understandable. Im not you know, they all went to jail. Her lawsuit started it all: Former Fox host Gretchen Carlson claims Ailes repeatedly sexually harassed her. Email us. The story surfaced on the Internet in 1999, and my guess is that it will live there a long time. Jane Fonda was more than just an actress born to a wealthy and prominent Hollywood family. Radio broadcasts, which attempted to shame American troops: Fonda did record messages that the North Vietnamese played for Americans to weaken their resolve. It all has nothing to do with where I am sitting. CHRIS WALLACE: When you got that nickname Hanoi Jane, how did you feel at the time? If a prisoner tried to escape, it is quite understandable that he would probably be beaten and tortured.. Lets break down her remarks. The cover called her Ms. One of the times it did, Im happy to say, was with Keith Nolan, the author of several books on the war, most recently Ripcord , a superb account of the 101st Airborne in the conflicts last great battle. No, after the Left's "victory" in the United State's withdrawal from Southeast Asia, the matter of consequences was conveniently dropped from the discussion. His replacement, General Ridgway, said after the war: "The reason we didn't win is because I was under orders not to win". So I feel that well If I did was good, except that I shouldnt have set gone out to a military place. Talking Points, WATCH: Greg Gutfeld and Bill Maher Riff About Incest Porn Because They Are Hilarious Comedians And Hell Exists, Cocaine Bear, Hold My Beer: Production Company Behind Sharknado Releasing Meth Gator Movie This Summer. "Claim: POWs were beaten for refusing to cooperate or meet with Fonda during her visit. We now see a pattern of sedition/treason. Shewas arrested before she got the chance, just as she had been at Fort Lewis, Wash., Fort Hood, Tex., and Fort Bragg, N.C. Fonda told The Post shed made talking to GIs herfull-time job. And heres Cat Ballou, the beautiful daughter of Young Abe Lincoln, of Mister Roberts, beaming down from a machine designed to kill them. She is the daughter of legendary actor and WWII Naval Officer Henry Fonda. Some lawmakers calledher actions treason. They hadnt been able to vote on the virtues of the conflict, and they found themselves in mortal peril in the midst of an ugly, painful ordeal that a lot of vocal people back home thought was a criminal enterprise. Fonda has refused to tell her side of the story to historians investigating her role, purportedly because she was saving her story for her own memoirs, which are expected to be published soon. And it was a terrible mistake because of the image that it showed, which was not at all what the reality was. Halyburton told him that the POW's had tried to debunk them even though they regarded Fonda as an unsympathetic figure. Dave NORTH: Irrefutable for the three things she did, and I defined for you the rule, the actual constitutional language defining treason. I want you to go home and say, "I'm sorry I got caught doing the wrong thing.". You know, I have an organization in Georgia that deals with adolescents, and Ive studied parenting. Please support this 72-year tradition of trusted historical writing and the volunteers that sustain it with a donation to American Heritage. Here it is. Richard Morgan, "Flashpoint Vietnam," the real story about the road to the war. : Yes, that one story was true. On campus, she was pushing her movement to turn U.S. soldiers into pacifists. I don't want people putting words into my mouth, saying "you're going to tell us all these bankers and financiers are Jewish", for instance. She so symbolized the divided nation, hawks arrayed against her and doves siding with her, that she became a personal target, most recently with allegations about personal involvement in the mistreatment of POWs. ET!. FONDA: I'm charging the government with genocide, with genocide. Imagine its the Battle of the Bulge and Betty Grable is up on top of a German tank saying the Yanks are fighting an evil war. Its not a preposterous analogynot as far as the soldiers involved are concerned. That begs the question, responsible for what? I remember one retired lieutenant colonel describing a conversation he had with an angry trooper about the treasonous behavior of Jane Fonda in the midst of the 1968 Tet Offensive. It wasnt firing at the time, and Fonda said in 2011 she hardly even thought about where I was sitting and that it is possible that it was a set up, that the Vietnamese www.DanandGEnterprises.com If I was used, I allowed it to happen. Switch to the light mode that's kinder on your eyes at day time. CHRIS WALLACE: So when you say it was a terrible mistake. 2023 FOX News Network, LLC. He collects a group of American POWs from their septic dungeons, cleans them up, and has them mustered on parade to show his guest how well his embattled nation treats its prisoners. I sang a song. Its more than being a traitor; millions of Americans felt treasonous during that war. I'm sorry I hurt you, Alan, and I hope you can forgive me." During an interview with Barbara Walters 35 years ago, Oscar-winning actress Jane Fonda apologized for being used as propaganda for North Vietnam when we were still fighting North Vietnam. Fonda was lambasted for her trip to North Vietnam in 1972 during the Vietnam War. "War Stories," Colonel, we'll be watching this Sunday, 8 p.m. as usual. Though Fonda has been an activist throughout her life, the only other time she has spent the night in jail was in 1970, when she was 32, on a speaking tour protesting the Vietnam War. The reality of it is an apology is saying, "I am sorry, I really do apologize for what I did over there, and I'm asking for your forgiveness." Have a tip we should know? HANNITY: All right. If it wasn't I must be missing something. All were hired by Roger Ailes, the former network boss who exited in August 2016 amid a sexual harassment scandal. CHRIS WALLACE: Your most famous protest was 50 years ago when you went to North Vietnam at the height of the war there. But he never met Jane Fonda, and he has no idea how the maddening tale attached itself to him. Id been getting pretty sour about the incensed patriots who would curse me and my family and confidently speak on behalf of all veterans living and dead, and the Great Jehovah and the Continental Congress, to declare I was a disgrace to America for running that storythen conclude by smugly assuring me they would never read it. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Fonda shakes the last hand, then turns to the officer and gives him the fistful of messages. They hadnt been able to vote on the virtues of the conflict, and they found themselves in mortal peril in the midst of an ugly, painful ordeal that a lot of vocal people back home thought was a criminal enterprise. Thats what made me laugh. They realized that the war was wrong, that we werent wanted there. And you were photographed sitting on an anti aircraft gun. Fondas transformation from actress to activist began several years earlier. She visited Russia in the early Sixties, and was personally impressed by the deference she received. Respected online resources such as Snopes, Truth Miners, and Urban Legends have all cited key persons in the infamous email as having refuted its claims. . And you know, maybe I was set up but I was an adult, its Im gonna take responsibility for it. Jane Fonda sparked outrage among war veterans when she was pictured sitting on an anti-aircraft gun in 1972 during the Vietnam War, earning her the nickname Hanoi Jane. In no sense am I a Fonda apologist. There was a real Colonel Carrigan, and he was a POW in Vietnam. mode: 'thumbnails-b', Heres Kellys take on what she called Fondas poor me routine. This is a partial transcript from "Hannity & Colmes," April 6, 2005, that has been edited for clarity.
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