Hi J.H.E. When separated from the liner, the steel cap could be used for many different things. However, he has recently discovered that apparently all Brodie and Mk.I helmets were pressed by Joseph Sankey and Sons, so the the initials simply indicate the steel supplier. if (dailyinfo[daym] != "") { document.write(fontstart+dailyinfo[daym]+fontend) }
The British Mark I chinstrap bails are made from 16 gauge brass or in some cases steel wire. Early Mark I helmet initially had thisfeature only to be discontinue in mid 1916. The letter which follows the slash representsthe company who rolled the steel provide for the helmet. (Salonika) Territorial Force Nursing Service who died 01/03/1918 KNOWLE (SS. Yet, as well will now see, the Brodies legacy was even greater, for it provided the template for the more influential M1 helmet which was developed in America and which is the most significant military helmet of the twentieth century. The American shell is heavier. It looks like it's stamped 'JSS' above the date marking, which is the maker's mark for Joseph Sankey & Sons Ltd, who produced helmet shells from 1938 to 1941. The Brodie was the first modern military helmet developed by Britain. The two WW1 Brodie Helmets, British and American, are nearly identical. Good to see that copper rivetswere used. As usually occurs during such periods of protracted stability, investment in innovations in military equipment was limited and there was no real urgency to develop new weapons and protective equipment. So these were our deliverers at last." What pattern of helmet is this, and given the unusual markings, is it a valuable relic, or is it some fantasy piece suitable to be stripped and restored to issue green? NOT JUST RESTORATION. dailyinfo[21]='
L/32287 Driver John Frampton GAZE "O" Bty. After 1936 a new helmet was produced by McCord Radiator Co, the helmets were stamped with 1 or 2 digit numbers, and 1 letter on the rim, all the helmets have the same paint and texture when in factory condition unlike the modified. "Foyle." The helmet shell is indeed a M1* with an early made Vero liner. var fontstart = ''
i don't know anything about brodie helmet . A soup dish style helmet from the Great War, offered for sale islabeledincorrectly. In conclusion, the M1 can probably be designated as the most successful combat helmet ever made.
Brodie Steel trench helmet Identification marks Remembered Today: 1081780 Sapper Bedford Stanley LONG "D" Coy. Frank Harrison EDINGER Army Chaplains Department who died 26/02/1918 HOLLYBROOK MEMORIAL, SOUTHAMPTON United Kingdom '
Not sure why there's a hole in the rim. The chinstrap was secured directly to the helmet brim and the liner was held into the skull with a single rivet on the top. Both helmets are non-magnetic. Looks like an original Mk2 shell, obviously repainted. // Stop Define Variables for days of the month
, By More innovatively the steel cap was also used as a multi-purpose device by American soldiers during the Second World War. Awesome, thanks for the replies. dailyinfo[14]='
16511 Private Albert COLEMAN "D" Coy. WW1 BRITISH BRODIE Helmet SOMME relic - 60.00. He was in his early forties when the war broke out and he turned his attentions to developing a military helmet along the lines that the French had just produced with the Adrian helmet. . Brodie Helmet ID?
worked in or simply that he worked in a department in a parliamentary house, it's speculative at best I know ?. Columbian Enameling & Stamping Co - Terre Haute - Indiana. Middlesex Regiment who died 25/02/1921 LADYWELL CEMETERY United Kingdom '
I too have seen dates on these lugs most often the way your pictures show them. var mydate=new Date()
WW1 Brodie Helmet - posted in Fallout 4 Mod Requests: Has anyone considered making a WW1 Brodie Helmet for Fallout 4? Hello Leon. Follow on Instagram, The British Mark I Brodie & the U.S. P17, know the difference, M42 winter camo. By 1916, Brodie helmet . WW1 British Brodie Helmet recovered from the SOMME. Kings Royal Rifle Corps who died 02/03/1915 YPRES (MENIN GATE) MEMORIAL Belgium '
Its service history within the US armed forces spans a period of over forty years, being the standard issue military headgear for American soldiers between 1941 and 1983 and inspiring imitation models around the world. It was replaced by the M1917AI. If so I know the US Navy used red painted helmets on their ships fordamage control teams. Seaforth Highlanders who died 20/03/1919 BEIRUT WAR CEMETERY Lebanese Republic '
The Both the liners and the chinstrap on the British and its American cousin are almost identical. When the helmets are viewed side by side it is easy to see why so many people confuse one for the other. dgirardin 11 months ago. Greetings. Remembered Today:
Colloquially, it was called the shrapnel helmet, battle bowler, Tommy helmet, tin hat, and in the United States the doughboy helmet. dailyinfo[18]='
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This was particularly the case when it came to trench warfare where shrapnel and debris rained down on soldiers heads from above. Royal Warwickshire Regiment who died 12/03/1918 ST. Get 5% Off With Coupon Code itscold Offer Ends 3/1/2023, The Brodie to the M1: The Evolution of Americas Most Famous Military Helmet. 2nd Bn. Canadian Railway Troops who died 18/12/1918 BUSIGNY COMMUNAL CEMETERY EXTENSION France GWF is free to use so please support the Forum Brodie Steel trench helmet Identification marks By Vimyridge NPH dailyinfo[10]=' 14780 Member Ida Styles HUGHES (Oxford) Womens Royal Air Force who died 10/03/1919 OXFORD (ROSE HILL) CEMETERY United Kingdom '
Just sold the ARVN ranger helmet. The list is on going if you know any more please let us know. never received helmet covers while in France. Now I'd be too bloody lucky if it was a Brodie - but it is interesting nonethless. Colloquially, it was also called the shrapnel helmet, Tommy helmet, or Tin Hat, and in the United States known as a doughboy helmet. The helmet istself is a Mk.1* but i have looked and cannot find any manufacturer stamps on either the helmet or liner/strap. used by someone in a fire department role, maybe a works fireman. His full name was Kenneth George YeomanGeeson. My M1915 adrian helmet from the belgium army and british Brodie Mk1 helmet used from the USA, Haller's Blue Army Soldier: Uniform Identification. And this only accounts for its use by the American military. Results 1 to 3 of 3 blue brodie helmet(or not) identification. This is due to the split rivet shearing away from strain and the near constant moister of the Western Front. A-125-2 ID IN SHELL (HG-43) WWII GERMAN SS M-42 HELMET IN ORIGINAL SHIPPING CRATE. Bluecher German Navy who died 29/01/1915 CANNOCK CHASE GERMAN MILITARY CEMETERY United Kingdom '
I'll ask about the bail rivets. Tom.Delahoyde Artillery cartridge case of German origin, used during WW1. I guess my difficulty is that discussions about brodies are quite detailed and assume prior knowledge. Indeed, a domestically produced version of the M1 is still in use today amongst the Indian armed forces, as well as several other countries such as Vietnam, Turkey and Colombia, albeit often in a ceremonial capacity. They were produced Nov.1940 thru May 1941. inspection stamp mark I've seen them before on liners. From left to right: A pair of clamped chin straps with male snaps for the parachutist M1 helmet and liner next to a pair of standard infantry chinstrap used from early 1950s to the mid-1970s. Manufacturing Co - Philadelphia - Pennsylvania. 4th Bn. loop/lug was first used on the British MKI* and MKII helmets.
The steel cap could not be used without the liner, but the liner could be worn on its own and indeed was regularly employed for this purpose in ceremonial settings within the army, or as protective headgear in civil society, by, for instance, policemen and fire brigades. It's easy! Some developed nations such as Australia and Canada even continued to use it well into the 1990s. It was also in 1916 that the British began supplying large numbers of Brodie helmets to their allies. dailyinfo[28]='
19673 Leading Aircraftman Samuel Ambrose TICKNER Meritorious Service Medal No. Head Gear POOR MANS MILITARIA. WW1 Brodie British Helmet Original C. 1916 455.00 Click & Collect 12.00 postage or Best Offer 26 watching WW1 US AEF 30th Division Patch Painted Brodie Helmet 190.63 29.65 postage 10 watching Original USA American WW1 M-1917 Brodie Helmet with Original Sand Finish w Liner 317.72 63.54 postage or Best Offer Indeed so functional was it and easy to manufacture that the Brodie was purchased by many other countries and the design was adapted by several other European states and even by the United States. So just a shell with an unknown unit marking probably . Some American helmets tend to be a darker olive color, while others have paint identical to their British counter parts. The most widely recognised Air Raid Warden's helmet insignia is the two-inch high 'W'.Depending on the air raid warden's rank he would have either a black helmet with white 'W' or a white helmet with black 'W' (plus one or two one-inch bars (separated by a half-inch gap) to denote seniority within the wardens' service).However, there are a thousands of helmets from various localities with a . Generally soldiers were still being issued cloth caps or leather headgear of a kind which offered little or no protection from modern artillery and the shrapnel which sprayed out from it. Though I do not know the code for the manufacturers. Welcome to the Treasure Bunker Forum - Please feel free to join and share your knowledge, with our growing data base of collectors and historians, both new and advanced. I've just been given what looks like a pretty standard "Tommy" helmet. Both the British and American helmets have marking stamped into the steel on the underside of the helmets skirt. With New Vegas, I luckily was able to use the NCR Trooper Helmet, but there is no helmet like that in this game. The most obvious difference may be observed by turning the helmet over. Your link has been automatically embedded. I bought a M1 Vietnam era helmet through mail order surplus years ago and turns out they grabbed me a very collectable M1C paratrooper helmet. I really don't think there are any other markings. Here is an image ( sorry for bad quality) There are 3 letters painted on the front i think it could be either one of these combinations: dailyinfo[16]=' 22659 Serjeant George SNELL Military Medal "T" Bty. Here is a good thread with a posting describing the British manufacturer codes. The British Mark I has a rubber ring sometimes called adoughnut sewn between two pieces of wool in the base of the helmet dome. You can post now and register later. This list is on going if you know of any more please let us know. Middlesex Regiment who died 25/02/1921 LADYWELL CEMETERY United Kingdom '
Upload or insert images from URL. The story, for many years I wanted a bog standard WW2 Cdn pattern helmet for my collection, mainly a display piece. I always liked the Brodie Helmet, sure as protective as other helmets of the era but a neat helmet. MSA. It may have been refurbished by the Americans during the 1930s and had new mounts added, which they did to both British and American Helmets, if you can find a makers mark you will know for sure. Was wondering if anyone could give some more info on it. Paste as plain text instead, Northamptonshire Regiment who died 14/03/1915 LE TOURET MEMORIAL France '
Nevertheless there was some effort to produce a more advanced version of the M1917. By knowing about a few small details the buyer will never make the mistake of purchase the wrong helmet. dailyinfo[30]='
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Benjamin Electric Co - Des Plaines - Illinois. Hi, I recently found my Step-dad's Father's WW2 Mk.1* Brodie. dailyinfo[29]='
Oberleutnant zur See Axel Carl Ludwig VON SCHOENERMARCK S.M.S. The helmet is an American M1917 made for the American Expeditionary Force, but very few made it to, The stamp mark on the helmet looks like ZC 3 which is thought to belong to the Edward.
The British troops followed with the Brodie helmet. A 'no helmet' bare head case was used as a control (denoted BAR). FOR SALE! Colin is the man for Brodies but I think he might struggle with this one too. He worked at the Houses of Parliament (I cant quite remember what position he held but I will ask my step father tomorrow) and he was good friends with Sir Winston Churchill and attended various dinners with him, one of which we have the original letter and menu for. So. var dailyinfo= new Array(31)
Colloquially, it was also called the shrapnel helmet or Tommy helmet, and in the United States known as a doughboy helmet. dailyinfo[18]=' 6422 Private Charlie GILBERT 4th Coy. New user here. Original WWII British Brodie Steel Helmet in OD Green- WW2 Dated $114.95 400 sold ORIGINAL WWII BRITISH / CANADIAN 1941 HELMET $49.88 $18.00 shipping WW2 Canadian Dispatch Rider Helmet $149.00 0 bids $22.80 shipping 5d 17h Antique World War 2 British Brodie Helmet WW2 $44.00 0 bids $13.30 shipping 3d 11h or Best Offer By Parrotman287 1 year ago. dailyinfo[26]=' Chaplain 4th Class The Rev. Powered by Invision Community, US WW1 and WW2 Brodie Helmets and Maker Stamps. The real beardy types, anoraks and train spotters would only consider the type A and B as true Brodies. dailyinfo[12]=' 457 Lance Corporal Arthur Price ROWE 2nd/7th Bn. British Nurse Vera Brittain, http://warrelics.eu/forum/helmets/ww1-b met-16128/. However, the M1 sits further back on the head than the Brodie, thus providing greater protection to the neck. The chinstrap bails on a British Mark I and a U.S. P17 are of a completely different design. Identifying a Mk.1* British Civil Defence Brodie. Discussion board for World War 1 reenactors. Royal Air Force who died 24/02/1919 LINCOLN (NEWPORT) CEMETERY United Kingdom '
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